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URL icon « Reply #45 on: April 07, 2011, 11:01:13 PM »

I wouldn't take a cheque, but a czech?  Perhaps . . .
Darn, I gave away my last Czech last week.
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URL icon « Reply #46 on: April 07, 2011, 11:23:11 PM »

I needed a bride and now the Czech's in the mail? 

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URL icon « Reply #47 on: April 07, 2011, 11:31:15 PM »

I wouldn't take a cheque, but a czech?  Perhaps . . .

First hit I got from a Google Image Search for "Hypothetical Czech":


And that led me to seach for more information about this God, and found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radegast_%28god%29

Which clearly says he is the Slavic God Of Hospitality.  

Well (to bring this back on course), if there's one thing we Festivarians know, it's Hospitality!   So I hereby declare pre-fest Wednesday to be "Radegast Day", since we all extend our best hospitality to each other that day.




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URL icon « Reply #48 on: April 08, 2011, 01:14:18 AM »

I wouldn't take a cheque, but a czech?  Perhaps . . .
Which clearly says he is the Slavic God Of Hospitality.  
So I hereby declare pre-fest Wednesday to be "Radegast Day", since we all extend our best hospitality to each other that day.

 Thumbs Up Wow, "it" looks sooo hospitable.  What could be better to prepare my Festilibrium, than a TBF pre-fest Wednesday of  RUMBALLS, Firstgrass, YMSB, Full Moon, and Radegast Day?!?!?!?  Count me in!   Thumbs Up

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URL icon « Reply #49 on: April 08, 2011, 10:22:42 AM »

I just popped in to czech on how this thread was doing.

I'm glad I checked.

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URL icon « Reply #50 on: April 08, 2011, 10:59:22 AM »

I love it.................
Maybe, I should make a FLAT Radegast
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URL icon « Reply #51 on: April 08, 2011, 12:08:50 PM »

Hey Johnny,  I might be able to help with the Twins tickets!!!  I know 2 people with 20 home game season tix.  I bet we'll run into one another at TBF.  And for the record, I've got great Twins tix from both scalpers and stub hub last year, neither more than $15 bucks over face.  Got tix for June 13 Rockies game off stub hub as well ($35 11 rows behind dugout)The wife and I are camping in Lawson.  I'll be rockin' the twins hat all weekend.  Beer, Baseball, and Bluegrass.   Cheers Bryan

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URL icon « Reply #52 on: April 09, 2011, 12:23:37 PM »

Here's a blog entry I wrote 2 years ago for No Depression on this subject.  The link to Trent Reznor's post still works (with a redirect.)

http://www.nodepression.com/profiles/blogs/scalping-bluegrass-a-telluride

The point is that individuals acting as a community do make a difference, and TBF is special because of it.

And I can end a sentence in a preposition if I want to.  Even two...too...to.  Czech please...

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URL icon « Reply #53 on: April 09, 2011, 12:59:25 PM »

I needed a bride and now the Czech's in the mail? 

That's Czechmate!
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URL icon « Reply #54 on: April 09, 2011, 01:04:08 PM »

I needed a bride and now the Czech's in the mail? 

That's Czechmate!

I think you're just Russian us to end this.
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URL icon « Reply #55 on: April 09, 2011, 05:15:46 PM »

Here's a blog entry I wrote 2 years ago for No Depression on this subject.  The link to Trent Reznor's post still works (with a redirect.)

http://www.nodepression.com/profiles/blogs/scalping-bluegrass-a-telluride

The point is that individuals acting as a community do make a difference, and TBF is special because of it.

And I can end a sentence in a preposition if I want to.  Even two...too...to.  Czech please...

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Cool article ... thanks for sharing.  The Trent Reznor post was interesting as well.

One thing you've brought up (indirectly) in your post which I've struggled with is the whole issue of ebay or paypal's "cut" ... is it OK to embed their fee in the cost of the ticket your trying to sell for face + postage?

I had to unload two tickets for furthur NYE in SF a few months ago since I was unable to go due to my back/neck being severely tweaked, so I wound up placing an ad on ebay for face and offered to split shipping.   I was willing to eat the cut which ebay and paypal pulled out because I wasn't sure if it would be "right" to ask for that fee or even to split it with the buyer?  (aside from the fact that I had two days to unload them).

The ebay/paypal cut was not a ton, but the whole time sensitive process was a royal PITA dealing with the buyers ... who were legitimately interested and above board, but they were traveling & didn't have a mailing address in SF, etc.   The crux of the issue with ebay is that I met the buyers on a SCI message board who were asking first (outside of ebay) to hold the tix until they got their act together ... yet the clock was ticking for me.   So, I politely let them know I was going to put it on ebay (buy it now for face + 1/2 shippin) & they're welcome to have first crack.  The point being, I knew ebay would be a more secure conduit for the transaction vs. back and forth via email from an anonymous message board (in particular, one which has many "jokers in the deck" @ phantasytour.com vs. a relatively up front crowd on this board).  So, I kind of wonder if ebay fees could be considered in the same light as "insurance" fees you migth pay to FedEx or UPS?

Regardless of how ^ hair is split, I have learned over recent years to only buy tix I know I'm going to the event ... especially those you have to travel hundreds of miles to get to.
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URL icon « Reply #56 on: April 09, 2011, 05:48:38 PM »


One thing you've brought up (indirectly) in your post which I've struggled with is the whole issue of ebay or paypal's "cut" ... is it OK to embed their fee in the cost of the ticket your trying to sell for face + postage?


The general consensus of the forum has been that recouping reasonable fees you have or will pay in connection with tickets- credit card, ebay, shipping, etc., is perfectly justified and festivarian approved.
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URL icon « Reply #57 on: April 09, 2011, 07:46:47 PM »

I'd like to Hypothetically offer my Town Park Ticket up for TEN THOUSANDEEE DOLLLARRRSSSS!!

see you should have held out for



ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

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URL icon « Reply #58 on: April 20, 2011, 06:59:10 AM »

... apparently, now the "phantom market" which scalping generates is being embraced / officially sanctioned by the powers that be.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/04/ticketmaster_rolls_out_dynamic.html

LOS ANGELES -- Event tickets seller Ticketmaster said Monday that it is introducing new technology to let artists and sports teams raise or lower ticket prices to reflect demand during the initial sales period -- a move it said will crimp the profits of scalpers and boost revenue for performers and teams.

The technology could push up initial prices for front-row seats while reducing prices on less-desirable ones that might have gone unsold otherwise.

Ticketmaster, a division of Live Nation Entertainment Inc., says the change should make it harder for anyone to send prices soaring by buying up all the best tickets and reselling them at substantial profit.

"When the fan experience is not clouded by scalpers grabbing seats, or when there's more options for fans to come to a better show, that has a great impact on our business," Ticketmaster Chief Executive Nathan Hubbard said in an interview.

The company already is testing the system, known as "dynamic pricing," with several professional baseball, basketball and hockey teams. Ticketmaster plans to roll it out at some North American venues in the middle of the summer concert season this year. A data analysis company called MarketShare helped create the pricing tool.

The San Francisco Giants baseball team started using a dynamic pricing system created by a company called Qcue Inc. in 2009. The team found that adjusting prices in real time to reflect sales data, league standings and which opposing team was visiting helped sell more tickets.

Qcue now serves more than 20 teams in pro baseball, hockey, basketball and auto racing.

StubHub, the world's largest reseller of tickets and a subsidiary of eBay Inc., said dynamic pricing for sports events has not cut into its business. Tickets that command high prices on the initial sale tend to sell at even higher prices on the resale market because they're in limited supply, according to StubHub spokesman Glenn Lehrman.

And, when seats that aren't as good are priced even more cheaply, more tickets get sold, he said.

"Any kind of system that leads to lower prices, that is a good thing for fans," Lehrman said.

Live Nation's revenue fell 9 percent in 2010 as concert ticket sales dropped, even though it tried to get more people through turnstiles by cutting ticket prices. The company has said it expects global ticket sales to be flat in 2011, compared with an 8 percent decline last year, when it sold 120 million tickets.

Live Nation shares fell 14 cents, or 1.4 percent, to close at $9.73 Monday.
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