Fire Spinning

[getdowndani]

Hello Telluride Family

I just wanted to throw a topic out for discussion, forgive me if it has already been touched, I couldn't seem to find it and have never began a discussion myself so I may not have followed all the rules here but I am quite curious so...

What are your feelings on fire spinners at TBF? I know there may be some hesitation with recent fire bans in a lot of areas but as a performer, I have always wanted to light up during this event. I have considered inquring with the staff on if they'd ever be interested in hiring a troop to entertain all weekend during shows as well as down times, in the stage area. These would be trained professionals, of course, as well as safeties! And performers would not always be using fire, as well. However, after hearing that FURTHUR specifically requested not to allow hoops and things of that nature into their recent show at the First Bank, I wanted to hear what fellow festivarians feel on the subject. I personally feel this would bring a new and exciting element to such an amazing festival that I already enjoy coming back to and participating in year after year.

With that, any thoughts? Even just on spinners at shows in general!

[fundirector23]

I just can't imagine a place (in TP at least) where there would be enough room to safely conduct this.  I know at High Sierra it is done in a HUGE area...this kind of spare room does not exist in TP.  Most of us are strictly there for pickin, playin an sippin!  Fire Spinning is a great art, I just don't think it would be a hit in Telluride...my .02 cents.

 Listening to: Vince Gill

[BluegrassDustin]

I just can't imagine a place (in TP at least) where there would be enough room to safely conduct this.  I know at High Sierra it is done in a HUGE area...this kind of spare room does not exist in TP.  Most of us are strictly there for pickin, playin an sippin! 

[Fiddlesticks]

I frankly like the idea. How about making the Hula Hoop area a designated fire spinning area for a couple hours at night. I know there are people with LED Hoops that will want it at night fall too, but can't we all share?

 Listening to: The Buiscuit Burners - Anne Oakley

[itsRick]

I appreciate a good fire spinner as much as the next guy, but there is no way it'll ever fly in Telluride. The town would never allow it. The liability for Planet Bluegrass would be over the top. I'm all for leaving flames out of TBF.

[Hippie]

I appreciate a good fire spinner as much as the next guy, but there is no way it'll ever fly in Telluride. The town would never allow it. The liability for Planet Bluegrass would be over the top. I'm all for leaving flames out of TBF.

[Hot Sugar]

Fire spinning is pretty awesome, but I don't think it would mix with festival and festivating. I would hate for something to go wrong and the beautiful box canyon get lit up.

[Auntie Hope]

Okay, as much as I LOVE Fire Spinners and never once in my life thought I could ever try it myself.....

You are up against, I think, Federal Law on this one. The entire Town of Telluride is zoned Historic and there is a BAN ON ANY OPEN FLAME inside the box canyon to protect this National Treasure. It's the same reason any residence can't have a regular fireplace in town and why there are not fire rings for campfires in Town Park. Even the grills are a risk during the festival with so many folks, and sometimes the town, just tying a large trash bag over them

I would think the safety issue would be an even greater factor seeing that 10,000 Festivarians, Staff, Performers and their families and crews, along with the natural local population of the town could and would be trapped in the canyon, should a fire break out by a freak accident.

Remember, there is only one road in, and one road out. The Gondola won't help anyone if the side of the mountain is on fire.

I can't thank you enough for wanting to share this with us during the festival, but Telluride just isn't the place it should happen.



Good Luck! 

Auntie Hope 

[FaceOnMars]

Hello Telluride Family

I just wanted to throw a topic out for discussion, forgive me if it has already been touched, I couldn't seem to find it and have never began a discussion myself so I may not have followed all the rules here but I am quite curious so...

What are your feelings on fire spinners at TBF? I know there may be some hesitation with recent fire bans in a lot of areas but as a performer, I have always wanted to light up during this event. I have considered inquring with the staff on if they'd ever be interested in hiring a troop to entertain all weekend during shows as well as down times, in the stage area. These would be trained professionals, of course, as well as safeties! And performers would not always be using fire, as well. However, after hearing that FURTHUR specifically requested not to allow hoops and things of that nature into their recent show at the First Bank, I wanted to hear what fellow festivarians feel on the subject. I personally feel this would bring a new and exciting element to such an amazing festival that I already enjoy coming back to and participating in year after year.

With that, any thoughts? Even just on spinners at shows in general!

If there's room, it's safe, ticket holders don't have to subsidize it, and not a significant distraction, I'd be all for it.   

I'm thinking maybe there would be room somewhere in hula hoop area or maybe better (as it would be less a distraction) in the children's area on the old outdoor skating rink - which could be cordoned off after sunset?

There have been heated debates about hula hoopers indoors at 1st Bank for SCI Winter Carnival earlier this month ... with the floor packed (and security having to "throttle" people entering the floor), some people were upset with the fact that hoopers were still going at it and taking up space which could've been occupied by several more people.    Personally, I didn't mind so much ... since if you're willing to take the risk of getting dinged by a hooper you can share some of that open space     (more room to groove).  Nonetheless, I see the point that "what if everybody did this" ... there wouldn't be enough space.

I'd think the old rink could work, but the reality is that things aren't always that simple in so far as logistics and various concerns which festival organizers have which we might be totally unaware of.

[getdowndani]

Sorry for my miscommunication, I wasn't particularly asking about rules. If we were hired we'd be insured and all that jazz. I'm just wondering really whether you all care to share space. And not necessarily with people just spinning fire but spinners in general. My recent experiences at both bands at the first bank prompted this discussion. I knew before that some people didn't really care to have these 'toys' at shows but it never really seemed like a problem until I had heard that bands were specifically requesting to not allow them. I totally had friends who were 'throttled' right before my eyes at cheese, none of us spinning that night. It was very scary. I'm talking hair/dreads pulled, and tiny females shoved upwards up a flight of stairs. I was completely taken back by that. I have honestly pretty much been spinning at shows since I started going to live shows years ago. For me it's always been a part of this live music culture. My live music culture, rather. But I also know how to be respectful and put my hoops away. I guess that's why I am asking the people here first. I know you all care about the happenings at this fest!  : )

 Listening to: The Jerry Garcia Collection-Volume 1 Legion of Mary [Live] 'Since I lost My baby'

[FaceOnMars]

GDD:     Sorry to hear about your friends at Broomfield!  As much as people talk up what a great venue it is, I'm definitely not a fan of the security tactics they use ... have seen 5 furthur shows & 3 cheese there during the past 12+ months & over that time probably witnessed a good 30-50 people getting hauled off the floor.   Security is a bit over the top as far as I'm concerned and I now make sure to not allow my person to be displaced by them when they were in stalking mode (and an "emergency" isn't apparent).   Wasn't referring to ^ regarding "throttling" ... but rather that when it got really crowded on the floor, security at the entrance of the floor would wait until someone exited before they let someone (in a line) enter back.

I think you're going to run into the same situation at TBF ... especially during a sold out year.  The hula hoop area is already setup (unless I'm mistaking it for another festival), so finding new dedicated space with limited real estate is going to be a tall order ... but who knows, maybe they could abolish the poser pit to free up more room in the back

[FaceOnMars]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74jaKLPNGs&feature=player_embedded

^ just came across this morning ... SCI closing WC with all the bells and whistles ... very cool time!

[Auntie Hope]

Wow, what a way to end a show! Thanks for posting that vid!

Auntie Hope 

[MrEdyoulis]

What if it was done with burning bacon grease?

[Hippie]

Very nice production number, guess that is why the tickets cost so darn much 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74jaKLPNGs&feature=player_embedded

^ just came across this morning ... SCI closing WC with all the bells and whistles ... very cool time!