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URL icon « on: June 24, 2009, 09:29:22 AM »

Did anyone enjoy or get this?

I ask because I would love to know...

Personally, in 30 years of live music I have never had such a hard time with a set of music.

Kudos to PB for bringing in some fresh talent(someone must think he's talented), but my ears still hurt...

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URL icon « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 10:20:05 AM »

I didn't get Connor Oberst either.  I would characterize his musical style as "whiny emo folk."  And what the heck does he have to whine about so much?  He's no Brett Dennen, that's for sure. 

But hey, he was still light years better than Ryan Adams. 

I do, however, agree with the Planet's attempts at bringing in fresh faces, new talent and new musical directions.  They like to throw the "curve ball" at us, but I often strike out.  It's just part of the package and while I don't always enjoy the curve ball, sometimes it's a home run (eg, D. Byrne, Zac Brown)
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URL icon « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 11:02:50 AM »

conor oberst gets railed for being too loud.


only at telluride.
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URL icon « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 11:04:42 AM »

But hey, he was still light years better than Ryan Adams. 


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URL icon « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 11:28:41 AM »

But hey, he was still light years better than Ryan Adams.

Tsk Tsk.... sound may have been a little off at times but kudos to TBF for bringing one of the most prolific and rocking songwriters of our generation to the festival. Talking about Ryan Adams here... not Conor Oberst who I personally despise. "Whiny emo folk" .....couldn't have said it better myself.
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URL icon « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 11:54:32 AM »

But hey, he was still light years better than Ryan Adams.

Tsk Tsk.... sound may have been a little off at times but kudos to TBF for bringing one of the most prolific and rocking songwriters of our generation to the festival. Talking about Ryan Adams here... not Conor Oberst who I personally despise. "Whiny emo folk" .....couldn't have said it better myself.

one of the most prolific and rocking songwriters of our generation LOL 

I did not see R Adams at Telluride  but I did see C Oberst last weekend and I have seen both at other venues in the past. I think they are both talented artists and in my mind the outdoor festival  may not be the best venue for either of them. I much more enjoyed them in clubs and smaller venues.

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URL icon « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 01:44:44 PM »

conor oberst gets railed for being too loud.


only at telluride.

I personally thought it was too loud as well, but mostly in a "This sound mix is horrible and I can't make out the actual lyrics because the rest of the band is too loud" sense. It was just hard to listen to, not painfully loud... just would have preferred to have been able to understand him.
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URL icon « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 01:52:36 PM »


I did not see R Adams at Telluride  but I did see C Oberst last weekend and I have seen both at other venues in the past. I think they are both talented artists and in my mind the outdoor festival  may not be the best venue for either of them. I much more enjoyed them in clubs and smaller venues.



I think you're on to something here.  I can think of a number of acts I'd love to see in small venues, on their own, but not at TBF.  Sometimes it's an issue of "fit" with the rest of the day's or weekend's music - at least for me anyway.
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Tsk Tsk.... sound may have been a little off at times but kudos to TBF for bringing one of the most prolific and rocking songwriters of our generation to the festival. Talking about Ryan Adams here... not Conor Oberst who I personally despise. "Whiny emo folk" .....couldn't have said it better myself.
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One of the funniest things I heard all weekend was a husband ask his wife what Mr. Oberst was whining about and her response was: "EVERRRRYYYTHINGGGGG"
It was priceless.
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Tsk Tsk.... sound may have been a little off at times but kudos to TBF for bringing one of the most prolific and rocking songwriters of our generation to the festival. Talking about Ryan Adams here... not Conor Oberst who I personally despise. "Whiny emo folk" .....couldn't have said it better myself.
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One of the funniest things I heard all weekend was a husband ask his wife what Mr. Oberst was whining about and her response was: "EVERRRRYYYTHINGGGGG"
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YEah to each their own I guess...I know Conor Oberst has been very influential to other artists and is talented...just always rubbed me wrong despite trying to get into it.

All you Ryan Adams haters: take a look at his entire catalogue, from the Whiskeytown albums, his solo work (Heartbreaker, Gold) and his later stuff with the Cardinals...then talk shit if you still think he is garbage. He has written more amazing songs in half his short career than most noted artists could ever hope to write in their whole career. TBF isn't "trying," they just know who the talent is, and its unfortunate that it gets so easily dismissed by the legions of Sam Bush groupies that attend TBF.
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URL icon « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 04:31:03 PM »

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All you Ryan Adams haters: take a look at his entire catalogue, from the Whiskeytown albums, his solo work (Heartbreaker, Gold) and his later stuff with the Cardinals...then talk shit if you still think he is garbage. He has written more amazing songs in half his short career than most noted artists could ever hope to write in their whole career. TBF isn't "trying," they just know who the talent is, and its unfortunate that it gets so easily dismissed by the legions of Sam Bush groupies that attend TBF.

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It has nothing to do with the loyal court of the king. It has everything to do with how Ryan presented himself to this overly attentive listening crowd. I'm a BIG RA fan, but his set that night a little over a year ago was the loudest thing I've heard in the valley. Nevermind the fact that I'm pretty sure he never picked up an acoustic guitar for the duration of the set.

Let's not get into name calling. many here enjoyed the set, and many did not. It is what it is. I have no doubt that one day those that haven't followed up on Mr. Adams catalog will one day find themselves captivated by a song, or 10, only to realize "It's that loud guy they've been giving Dustin such a hard time for all these years." Wink

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No I didn't get it either. I have a music service and download a couple songs of his which I thought where boring. I was hoping he had something else to offer, but he appears to be just a boring artist.  Oberst may have put on the most bland set  in the history of Telluride.  I didn't hate it, it was like watching paint dry.

Ryan Adams was loud, but he played songs that were good and his band at times swung. They also crashed  and were just too dang loud. But for sure not boring or bland. I didn't like his set over all, but I'll take anything with real emotion in it over Oberst's set.
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URL icon « Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 05:47:05 PM »

I thought Conor was fine. Sometimes it was a little loud but overall i found most sets of the festival to be a wee bit too quiet, epsically Sam Bush. Conor rocked em imho.

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URL icon « Reply #13 on: June 24, 2009, 06:38:54 PM »


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It has nothing to do with the loyal court of the king. It has everything to do with how Ryan presented himself to this overly attentive listening crowd. I'm a BIG RA fan, but his set that night a little over a year ago was the loudest thing I've heard in the valley. Nevermind the fact that I'm pretty sure he never picked up an acoustic guitar for the duration of the set.

Let's not get into name calling. many here enjoyed the set, and many did not. It is what it is. I have no doubt that one day those that haven't followed up on Mr. Adams catalog will one day find themselves captivated by a song, or 10, only to realize "It's that loud guy they've been giving Dustin such a hard time for all these years." Wink

Remember...everyone is entitled to an opinion...it's accepting ones that are different from your own that make yours just as valid. Flower

Oh, christ. Well my opinion is that a lot of people have bagged heavily on some of the artists that TBF has booked without acknowledging their own musical biases and preferences, and so I feel compelled to call em on it... at least judge an artist on a wider spectrum of their work than on an isolated late Thursday nite in 45 degree weather.

Ryan Adams is a very unpredictable personality...and his setlist that nite was par for the course, as far as Cardinals sets go. Did TBF sign him to play an acoustic set? If not, then why was his set shocking to anyone other than folks who knew nothing about him?

Apparently I was wrong to think that Telluride was a great fest for people who love bluegrass, acoustic, AND rock n' roll. I mean, that's why I go. It's as if Lucifer himself emerges as soon as someone throws on the distortion in that valley.

I can go to any fest and see Yonder, Del, and Bela or another one to see Adams, Oberst, and Byrne, but that's what makes Telluride special is that you get both. If people are so easily unsettled by edgier music, perhaps they should stick with RockyGrass or something similar.

Here here to TBF for continuing to bring a diverse lineup to the festival...it's what brings my friends and I over a 1000 miles to attend.
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URL icon « Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 07:12:08 PM »

I enjoyed the Connor Oberst set. However, I bought his latest album about a month before the festival and had time to let it really sink in. At first it sounds like the average indie-folk rock band, but after a few turns you can hear where it stands out as a well crafted piece of 21st century music. There is alot of Dylan influence while at the same time you can hear influences of bands like The Clash, Wilco, and Conner Oberst's own personal touch, not for everybody, but worthy of some critical praise.

It's very interesting that Ryan Adams becomes such a heated discussion every time it gets brought up. I'll put it this way, if you ever get a chance, see him out of the festival circuit. I really enjoy his recordings, but thought during Telluride he could hardly keep up with his backing band, The Cardinals (which have members that could play a great show with or without RA). However, when I saw him at the Murat Theatre it was an absolutely stellar show full of rock tunes, country-rock tunes, sweet tunes, and everything inbetween. In some way it's similar to Todd Snider's set, which was good (better than Ryan Adams set), but lacked the amount of tongue-in-cheek, personal atmosphere he usually creates at a show done by himself.
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