2020 Town Park Lottery?

[alexbarbosa42]

...alot of this seems too much like ticket master. Anyone else confused/worried?

Confused?  Yes, mainly about the resale process and how 'See Tickets' prevents scalping while allowing the face value ticket exchange we all love.  Since it's possible PB could have a customized process with 'See Tickets' we need to more details from them.
Some potentially helpful details ...
https://www.seetickets.com/content/fan-to-fan-terms
https://support.seetickets.us/hc/en-us/articles/220446268-What-is-the-ticket-transfer-option-and-how-do-I-use-it-
I assume a 10% charge to a resale buyer would discourage scalpers and legit traders.

Worried?  Not at all.  New process, same goal.  I'll be bummed if I don't "win the queue game", but I've lost the lottery more often than not and that hasn't kept me away.  Technology and process outsourcing won't cause me to lose faith in karma/the festivarian gods (yet).

This change was bound to happen.  By posting this, I hope the 'See Tickets' machine learning algorithms that mine internet user data and activity will notice me as a festivarian and not a bot, so I get through the queue with ease.

You right about that. Most of us miss the lottery and still find tickets because our commitment to be in town park. I don't think that will change. Some changes on the front end, yeah, but come summer solstice I think we will still all be in town park enjoying each others company! It's not easy for PB to do everything in house, especially with how fast tech is changing the game. They've got my support and I hope folks keep a positive vibe about the change. See yall in June!

[alrghtgy]

RFID wristbands make sense.  I see these at more and more shows/events including Formula 1 race I attended this past weekend.  RFID technology is secure and I do think they make entry at the gate more efficient.  My concern is bots, scalpers, etc.  Ticketmaster, etc have their 'verified fan' methods, captchas, etc, as do others, that supposedly eliminate or greatly reduce the tix that end up in the hands of scalpers.  I'm just not convinced they do...but I will stay optimistic that PB will get it right!     

 Listening to: Will Johnson Wire Mountain

[happytimes]

Please help, I have no idea what this RFID tech is, and more bothersome, I can't find anything on Planet Bluegrass.  I ought to be getting Notes from  PB, don't have anything, when I click it above this forum, get an Error response.  Opening the festival page of the main site brings me nothing.  I'm always anxious about tickets tho I've mastered the online sprint.  Now I'm worried there will be some sort of new tech I won't be able to figure out.  (No smart phone . . . does that automatically make me exempt from ever getting tickets?)  Any reassurance will be appreciated!

[TellurideTom]

Without the lottery I'm concerned how much harder it will be to get a Town Park vehicle pass.
I personally don't have to worry about the Town Park camping pass aspect, but I've pretty much had to rely on my festivarian friends to come up with the vehicle pass.
Are they going to mail out the vehicle pass stickers as well as the RFID wristbands?
If so, it's going to be hard to figure out who has them or needs them.
I just hope this doesn't mean the end of some of the veteran campsites.
Only time will tell.
 

[BuckeyeDog]

RFID is radio frequency identification. Basically, it is a chip that is activated by radio waves which can track your movements and send that information out to be gathered by an information storage system. Not only can the chip be programmed to provide access to an event, if programmed in a certain way it could track your movements throughout the day. Like how long you are in the pit, backstage, or on the field, at the beer stand, at the food court, in the port-a-potty, in Town Park, and possibly track you throughout the town of Telluride.
Maybe the next step is facial recognition software. Then we may find out who the face on Mars really belongs to.  

[alrghtgy]

There are a few details on the Ticketing link on the PB website.
Also Planet Bluegrass Facebook page has made a couple of related posts and are fielding a some questions over there.  TP tix supposedly will still be a random lottery of sorts, but handled by the 3rd party.  Ticket on sale dates are to be announced on Fri.

[Hooch]

They are announcing dates and stuff Friday and more info/details will be forthcoming.  I'm holding off on unrestrained panic for a little while.  Most of us regulars have enough people watching our backs that I presume it will shake out to be our usual "You didn't get a ticket??  I got you a ticket!" situation....presuming we can all buy more than 1 or 2 passes when it's our turn in the queue.  Stuff changes.  Let's keep the vibe the same!

 Listening to: Howling tinnitus

[Australian fan]

They are announcing dates and stuff Friday and more info/details will be forthcoming.  I'm holding off on unrestrained panic for a little while.  Most of us regulars have enough people watching our backs that I presume it will shake out to be our usual "You didn't get a ticket??  I got you a ticket!" situation....presuming we can all buy more than 1 or 2 passes when it's our turn in the queue.  Stuff changes.  Let's keep the vibe the same!

Yeah, I’m keeping the faith too, I trust PB. But admit to feeling a bit sad. I go to lots of festivals, this one with the quirky little lotteries is definitely the best. Don’t stop believing

[MaddieRose]

They are announcing dates and stuff Friday and more info/details will be forthcoming.  I'm holding off on unrestrained panic for a little while.  Most of us regulars have enough people watching our backs that I presume it will shake out to be our usual "You didn't get a ticket??  I got you a ticket!" situation....presuming we can all buy more than 1 or 2 passes when it's our turn in the queue.  Stuff changes.  Let's keep the vibe the same!

Same here, I'm staying optimistic for now. We will know more soon.

[FaceOnMars]

RFID is radio frequency identification. Basically, it is a chip that is activated by radio waves which can track your movements and send that information out to be gathered by an information storage system. Not only can the chip be programmed to provide access to an event, if programmed in a certain way it could track your movements throughout the day. Like how long you are in the pit, backstage, or on the field, at the beer stand, at the food court, in the port-a-potty, in Town Park, and possibly track you throughout the town of Telluride.
Maybe the next step is facial recognition software. Then we may find out who the face on Mars really belongs to.  

Once facial recognition goes online, they could easily setup a "festivarian social credit score system" akin to China:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOk27I2EBac

The higher your score, the better your number will be for tarp runs.  Let strangers sit on your tarp, you get more points.   Have more than one beer in your hands while walking more points (unless you're double fisting).  Tall person scoots behind shorter person, more points.  Smoking in a crowd gets you dinged.  Likewise for pushing and showtalking.  Etc.

Personally, I think my "score" would be exceptional ... but who knows 

Some might laugh, but might it not be because there's an element of truth in what I'm saying?  Just like driver assisted technology, this is a one way street & the frog WILL boil in water ... it's just a matter of time!  Again, I repeat, the frog WILL boil in water.  Why even open the door?

[BillyBeru]

Your train has clearly left the station

[culasthewiz]

Again, I repeat, the frog WILL boil in water. 

As long as they start doing drone beer delivery, I'm in.

[aztoma]

FoM LOL!!!!! I am not at all for tracking where I am during the festival....but I can get competitive about those points.

I miss the good ol' 3 x 5" index cards mailed in. At least them we could get creative and decorate them so they would catch the eye of the person divvying out the TP tickets. THAT was time well spent, unlike sitting on hold. Maybe we should have a 'selfe pic' competition for everyone on hold. Post you funniest/unique selfie while on hold for tickets. Winner with the most likes gets a Crunchy Frog.

I too will stay optimistic...... Hoping to make it for my 21st year.

 Listening to: Woodbelly - Solid Ground

[swander99]

RFID is radio frequency identification. Maybe the next step is facial recognition software. Then we may find out who the face on Mars really belongs to.  

  Good one BDog!    I'm hoping they can keep me informed on my heart rate, oxygen, and THC levels @ Festivaaal! elevation, as well.  (is this FestiMoji obsolete?)

 Listening to: Steeldrivers

[MaddieRose]

I'm on board for measuring our THC levels!