Will legalization in Colorado affect the festival?

[FaceOnMars]

... probably not much in reality 

But who knows, maybe KOTO will expand the beer booth to include a selection of green?

I'm guessing the stipulation about not partaking in public might make the point moot, but not sure if the festival grounds would be considered "private" (even though the land is public)? 

[JoeBu]

   It's funny to even think about having this discussion.

But in reality it's at minimum it's 2014 and likely far far in the future before we see retail stores, let alone "on-sale"....and even if we did, why would we want to taunt the feds....I vote YES on keep TBF off the federal radar! 


Strange times indeed!

[RockyMtnGuy]

I suspect that the "haze" over the festival will commence a bit earlier at future TBFs.  I'm not aware of the passing of the law affording any liberties regarding the open sale of cannabis, though.  I think there are federal statutes (which trump state laws) which prevent commercial sales; so, really, what does the passing of a law permitting the possession of a small amount of cannabis really amount to?  Since I'm not a partaker of the ganja, its not really an issue for/to me.

[Pilgrim99]

Something tells me we won't notice anything different. 

[skyrunner]

  I'm with Pilgrim99, I don't think there will be much of a change to what you see now in the festival.  With the exception of partaking in public, i.e. walking down the street. Witch really does not have anything to do with the festival. Besides, if your not a jerk about it the police don't really give you any hassle about it now anyway.    

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[FaceOnMars]

  It's funny to even think about having this discussion.

But in reality it's at minimum it's 2014 and likely far far in the future before we see retail stores, let alone "on-sale"....and even if we did, why would we want to taunt the feds....I vote YES on keep TBF off the federal radar! 


Strange times indeed!

I'm not 100% sure of the nuances, but I believe the State of Colorado has until July 1, 2013 to get it's act together legislatively and administratively.  If they haven't, then municipalities can start forging ahead on their own by October 1, 2013.  Again, I'm not exactly sure.  Regardless, it's looks like the 2013 TBF won't be taking place with retail stores in operation (other than MMJ shops which are already in existence - and one would still need a card).

I suppose the only real difference this year might be if the grounds are considered "private" and it's allowed to partake ... which in reality won't make any difference (unless you want to walk in through the pat down area while smoking).

If it turns out that Obama tries to "intercept" (yes, pun intended) the will of the Colorado voters, then I say let's skip the taunting level & bring it on all the way to the SCOTUS!

I am less concerned about being on the Feds' radar vs. having the festival located in what will be the "New Amsterdam" ... the spike in demand might dwarf anything we've ever seen if it's just Colorado (Washington).   Perhaps some of the people who come mostly to experience a pot haven will "get it" (i.e. festivarian spirit), but my suspicion is there will be a good many who don't & simply want to injest/party until they pass out.

[Linds]

I think the only effect you'll see is that it is now legal (per the state, anyway) to possess up to an ounce of pot.  If they pat you down and find it, they can't throw you in jail for it anymore. 

[completejohn]

This might motivate me to apply for a vendor's booth.  Fritos, Oreos, Bugles, etc. 

Any menu suggestions would be appreciated!

[Mel]

This might motivate me to apply for a vendor's booth.  Fritos, Oreos, Bugles, etc. 

Any menu suggestions would be appreciated!

Gov. Hickenlooper is partial to Cheetos.

[Auntie Hope]

This might motivate me to apply for a vendor's booth.  Fritos, Oreos, Bugles, etc. 

Any menu suggestions would be appreciated!

Gov. Hickenlooper is partial to Cheetos.

... and Gold Fish. 

[synchronicity]

I think the only effect you'll see is that it is now legal (per the state, anyway) to possess up to an ounce of pot.  If they pat you down and find it, they can't throw you in jail for it anymore. 

Exactly.  Just like if you got caught trying to sneak a beer in.
Dump it out over there Dumbass...
Instead of Officer O'Malley who just happens to be
volunteering finds that this is interesting to him...

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[MrEdyoulis]

The same type of initiative was voted on here in California in 2010.  I voted against it, and it failed statewide.  The reason I was opposed, despite being a partaker, is that I don't trust the gubmint to not Eff up the Kush.  First of all they'd get their tax jones on it, then decree it had to be below a certain THC threshold, and most importantly they would come up with a field sobriety test for cannabis.  And you know their legal limit would translate into something you could have consumed three weeks ago.

Don't get me wrong, the war on drugs has been a colossal failure.  And in a perfect world, the gubmint should allow you to put whatever you choose into your body.  But we don't live in a perfect world and our pols are so fubar that I don't trust them with a burnt match.

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Having said that, I bet Sister's Dumplings could whip up a killer Deep Dank Dumpling!!

[Linds]

The same type of initiative was voted on here in California in 2010.  I voted against it, and it failed statewide.  The reason I was opposed, despite being a partaker, is that I don't trust the gubmint to not Eff up the Kush.  First of all they'd get their tax jones on it, then decree it had to be below a certain THC threshold, and most importantly they would come up with a field sobriety test for cannabis.  And you know their legal limit would translate into something you could have consumed three weeks ago.

Don't get me wrong, the war on drugs has been a colossal failure.  And in a perfect world, the gubmint should allow you to put whatever you choose into your body.  But we don't live in a perfect world and our pols are so fubar that I don't trust them with a burnt match.

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Having said that, I bet Sister's Dumplings could whip up a killer Deep Dank Dumpling!!

I agree with you about the feds stanking it up.  From what I've heard, Colorado's medical marijuana laws haven't done anything to reduce the quality of the pot here, though.  As most people know who have partaken in Colorado, this state produces some first rate stuff, probably thanks in part to the medical MJ business.  When pot sales are above-board and legal, I think you'll see a lot of competition among growers to produce even better-quality stuff.  And don't forget that it is legal *right now* in Colorado to grow your own -- up to 6 plants, and 3 can be mature.  I think you can also legally give -- not sell -- up to an ounce to your friends.  Pass the love around.  The government can't really regulate THC levels and such with that kind of law on the books.  Hopefully Colorado can write the recreational laws to discourage federal intervention and keep the state government influence to a minimum.


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[FaceOnMars]

The same type of initiative was voted on here in California in 2010.  I voted against it, and it failed statewide.  The reason I was opposed, despite being a partaker, is that I don't trust the gubmint to not Eff up the Kush.  First of all they'd get their tax jones on it, then decree it had to be below a certain THC threshold, and most importantly they would come up with a field sobriety test for cannabis.  And you know their legal limit would translate into something you could have consumed three weeks ago.

Don't get me wrong, the war on drugs has been a colossal failure.  And in a perfect world, the gubmint should allow you to put whatever you choose into your body.  But we don't live in a perfect world and our pols are so fubar that I don't trust them with a burnt match.

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Having said that, I bet Sister's Dumplings could whip up a killer Deep Dank Dumpling!!

I agree with you about the feds stanking it up.  From what I've heard, Colorado's medical marijuana laws haven't done anything to reduce the quality of the pot here, though.  As most people know who have partaken in Colorado, this state produces some first rate stuff, probably thanks in part to the medical MJ business.  When pot sales are above-board and legal, I think you'll see a lot of competition among growers to produce even better-quality stuff.  And don't forget that it is legal *right now* in Colorado to grow your own -- up to 6 plants, and 3 can be mature.  I think you can also legally give -- not sell -- up to an ounce to your friends.  Pass the love around.  The government can't really regulate THC levels and such with that kind of law on the books.  Hopefully Colorado can write the recreational laws to discourage federal intervention and keep the state government influence to a minimum.

I believe the Governor still has to sign something or another in a few weeks to make it all official, and you never know what's going to happen between now and then ... just sayin' it might be wise to wait a month before getting your setup going.

I've heard some people make similar claims about the amendment not being "ideal" ... however, the way I look at it is as long as we made a "break through" that's all that really matters.  If it turns out that in 5 years it's legal at the fed level and other states have made similar strides (with better legislation), then Colorado can revise the amendment (even though it would be a PITA).  It just had to start somewhere.

[The Goat]

This might motivate me to apply for a vendor's booth.  Fritos, Oreos, Bugles, etc. 

Any menu suggestions would be appreciated!

Gov. Hickenlooper is partial to Cheetos.

... and Gold Fish. 

Taco Bell setting up a booth too?

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